--- title: The fallacy of work-life-balance With Mark Kosoglow, CEO & Co-founder of Operator description: Is work-life balance a fallacy? Mark Kosoglow, CEO & Co-founder of Operator, joins the LeadrPulse Podcast to share his hot take + tips for avoiding burnout. image: https://blog.leadr.com/hubfs/LeadrPulse%20podcast%20Season%202.jpg --- [![Leadr Logo](https://blog.leadr.com/hs-fs/hubfs/Leadr%20Logo.png?width=140&height=45&name=Leadr%20Logo.png "Leadr Logo")](https://www.leadr.com/) [![Leadr Logo](https://blog.leadr.com/hs-fs/hubfs/Leadr%20Logo.png?width=90&height=29&name=Leadr%20Logo.png "Leadr Logo")](https://www.leadr.com) - Resources - [LeadrPulse Podcast](https://insights.leadr.com/leadrpulse-podcast) - [Webinars & Events](http://www.leadr.com/webinars-events) - [Downloads](http://www.leadr.com/resources) - [Blog](https://blog.leadr.com) - [Order Management is Dead](http://www.leadr.com/book) - What We Offer - [Software](http://www.leadr.com/software) - [Manager Training](http://www.leadr.com/academy) - [Customer Stories](http://www.leadr.com/customer-stories) - [Release Notes](https://blog.leadr.com/release-notes) - Partnerships - [Leadr & Lencioni](http://www.leadr.com/table-group) - [Maxwell Leadership](http://www.leadr.com/maxwell) - [Become a Partner](http://www.leadr.com/affiliates) - [About Us](http://www.leadr.com/about-us) - [Our Story, Values & Culture](http://www.leadr.com/about-us) - [Leadr News Room](https://blog.leadr.com/news-room) - [Careers](http://www.leadr.com/careers) - [Contact Us](http://www.leadr.com/contact-us) More results [Request A Demo](http://www.leadr.com/request-demo) [Sign In](https://app.leadr.com/) [REQUEST A DEMO](http://www.leadr.com/request-demo) [![Request a Demo](https://no-cache.hubspot.com/cta/default/9096015/de3254a8-05b4-4bfd-9906-97203d8a919c.png)](https://cta-redirect.hubspot.com/cta/redirect/9096015/de3254a8-05b4-4bfd-9906-97203d8a919c) - Resources - [LeadrPulse Podcast](https://insights.leadr.com/leadrpulse-podcast) - [Webinars & Events](http://www.leadr.com/webinars-events) - [Downloads](http://www.leadr.com/resources) - [Blog](https://blog.leadr.com) - [Order Management is Dead](http://www.leadr.com/book) - What We Offer - [Software](http://www.leadr.com/software) - [Manager Training](http://www.leadr.com/academy) - [Customer Stories](http://www.leadr.com/customer-stories) - [Release Notes](https://blog.leadr.com/release-notes) - Partnerships - [Leadr & Lencioni](http://www.leadr.com/table-group) - [Maxwell Leadership](http://www.leadr.com/maxwell) - [Become a Partner](http://www.leadr.com/affiliates) - [About Us](http://www.leadr.com/about-us) - [Our Story, Values & Culture](http://www.leadr.com/about-us) - [Leadr News Room](https://blog.leadr.com/news-room) - [Careers](http://www.leadr.com/careers) - [Contact Us](http://www.leadr.com/contact-us) [![Request a Demo](https://no-cache.hubspot.com/cta/default/9096015/de3254a8-05b4-4bfd-9906-97203d8a919c.png)](https://cta-redirect.hubspot.com/cta/redirect/9096015/de3254a8-05b4-4bfd-9906-97203d8a919c)[![SIGN IN](https://no-cache.hubspot.com/cta/default/9096015/558f6c6e-53c1-4343-a844-6925dbb7f750.png)](https://cta-redirect.hubspot.com/cta/redirect/9096015/558f6c6e-53c1-4343-a844-6925dbb7f750) LeadrPulse Podcast #### Share this [Share on Twitter](https://twitter.com/share?url=https://blog.leadr.com/leadrpulse-podcast/mark-kosoglow-2&text=The%20fallacy%20of%20work-life-balance%20With%20Mark%20Kosoglow,%20CEO%20&%20Co-founder%20of%20Operator) [Share on Facebook](https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https://blog.leadr.com/leadrpulse-podcast/mark-kosoglow-2&t=The%20fallacy%20of%20work-life-balance%20With%20Mark%20Kosoglow,%20CEO%20&%20Co-founder%20of%20Operator) [Share on LinkedIn](https://www.linkedin.com/shareArticle?mini=true&url=https://blog.leadr.com/leadrpulse-podcast/mark-kosoglow-2&t=The%20fallacy%20of%20work-life-balance%20With%20Mark%20Kosoglow,%20CEO%20&%20Co-founder%20of%20Operator) # The fallacy of work-life-balance With Mark Kosoglow, CEO & Co-founder of Operator by [**Holly Tate**](https://blog.leadr.com/leadrpulse-podcast/author/holly-tateleadr-com) on Oct 24, 2024 12:00:00 AM   Work-life balance. Can it really be achieved? This week, we welcome back Mark Kosoglow, CEO & Co-founder of Operator, Former CRO of Catalyst & Former SVP of Global Sales at Outreach to share his hot take on the fallacy of work-life balance. He talks with LeadrPulse Podcast host and Leadr CEO, Matt Tresidder about how he practically navigates being a CRO and a Chief Fun Officer for his family.  Matt goes on with co-host and Leadr CMO, Holly Tate to discuss the times when they weren’t intentionally implementing work-life harmony which led to seasons of burnout, and their 5 tips for avoiding burnout and achieving work-life harmony. Who do you think the Hot Take award goes to this episode? Let us know. Check out the LeadrPulse Podcast episode from Season 1 that Holly mentions: [Detaching Your Identity From Your Work with Geoff Lewis, Founder and Managing Partner at Bedrock.](https://youtu.be/slxAeCxnTRc?si=EiCuITkVihmUWuJY) - [Follow Mark Kosoglow on LinkedIn](https://www.linkedin.com/in/mkosoglow) - [Follow Matt Tresidder on LinkedIn](https://www.linkedin.com/in/matttresidder/) - [Follow Holly Tate on LinkedIn](https://www.linkedin.com/in/hollyhalltate/) 🎧 Watch on [YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/@leadrinc/podcasts) or listen on [Spotify](https://open.spotify.com/show/0yuqxPf7m8JP0uATdSPdUv), [Apple Podcasts](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-leadrpulse-podcast/id1741405606), or [BuzzSprout](https://theleadrpulsepodcast.buzzsprout.com/)—and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode.     #### Share this [Share on Twitter](https://twitter.com/share?url=https://blog.leadr.com/leadrpulse-podcast/mark-kosoglow-2&text=The%20fallacy%20of%20work-life-balance%20With%20Mark%20Kosoglow,%20CEO%20&%20Co-founder%20of%20Operator) [Share on Facebook](https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https://blog.leadr.com/leadrpulse-podcast/mark-kosoglow-2&t=The%20fallacy%20of%20work-life-balance%20With%20Mark%20Kosoglow,%20CEO%20&%20Co-founder%20of%20Operator) [Share on LinkedIn](https://www.linkedin.com/shareArticle?mini=true&url=https://blog.leadr.com/leadrpulse-podcast/mark-kosoglow-2&t=The%20fallacy%20of%20work-life-balance%20With%20Mark%20Kosoglow,%20CEO%20&%20Co-founder%20of%20Operator) ### No Comments Yet Let us know what you think - Recent - Topics - Archive Recent Topics Archive - [February 2025 (4)](https://blog.leadr.com/leadrpulse-podcast/archive/2025/02) - [January 2025 (5)](https://blog.leadr.com/leadrpulse-podcast/archive/2025/01) - [December 2024 (3)](https://blog.leadr.com/leadrpulse-podcast/archive/2024/12) - [November 2024 (4)](https://blog.leadr.com/leadrpulse-podcast/archive/2024/11) - [October 2024 (4)](https://blog.leadr.com/leadrpulse-podcast/archive/2024/10) - [August 2024 (3)](https://blog.leadr.com/leadrpulse-podcast/archive/2024/08) - [July 2024 (3)](https://blog.leadr.com/leadrpulse-podcast/archive/2024/07) - [June 2024 (4)](https://blog.leadr.com/leadrpulse-podcast/archive/2024/06) - [May 2024 (5)](https://blog.leadr.com/leadrpulse-podcast/archive/2024/05) - [April 2024 (2)](https://blog.leadr.com/leadrpulse-podcast/archive/2024/04) See all ### Subscribe by email #### About Leadr Leadr is a software and professional services company that transforms your managers into coaches to drive team effectiveness. 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